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Stop Doing Chest Flys – I'm Begging You!!



There are 6 the reason why you must by no means do a dumbbell chest fly ever once more, and I’m going to indicate all of them to you on this video. As a matter of truth, I’m not going to go away you hanging however reasonably I’m going to indicate you a chest fly train various that you are able to do at dwelling or on the health club that provides you with higher chest outcomes with out the chance of shoulder damage that comes with the normal type of this chest train.

To start out, you wish to have a look at the place of the shoulder and the chance to the joint when performing the dumbbell chest fly unsupported on a bench. Together with your arms held out to the edges, there is no such thing as a safety in opposition to hyperextension of the shoulder with fatigue. Do you have to fail with the train, even when utilizing lighter weights, you don’t have anything inbuilt to the motion that may defend the anterior capsule of your shoulders.

Should you examine this to the ground fly variation the place you’ve the ground to forestall this undesirable joint stress and even the standing variation proven on the finish of this video, you’ll rapidly see why that is one thing you merely don’t have to introduce to the motion because it isn’t going to get you a much bigger chest by doing it.

Subsequent, I point out the truth that you are able to do a standing model of horizontal adduction of the arm. When potential, you must all the time try to select train variations that permit you to practice in your toes reasonably than lay on a bench. Whenever you wish to practice like an athlete, coaching with floor based mostly actions goes to be extra helpful because it incorporates extra muscle tissue, the core will get fired up extra considerably and it interprets higher to operate.

Again on the bench nevertheless, along with the vulnerability of the shoulder within the unsupported place you additionally rapidly notice that to accommodate the weak point on this place it’s essential lighten the weights considerably. This supplies much less of a mechanical overload to the muscle you are attempting to work right here (the pecs) which might make this an inferior selection when making an attempt to develop muscle. Actually, you would solely use sufficient weight that could possibly be safely dealt with within the backside place despite the fact that the chest reaches its level of most contraction on the high of the motion and is stronger there.

Within the standing crossover fly nevertheless you’ve the least quantity of pressure on the pecs when they’re at their weakest and probably the most quantity of pressure on them when they’re at their strongest. The place of peak contraction coincides with probably the most quantity of pressure being positioned on the pec muscle tissue. The cable can simply be substituted for a resistance band as effectively in the event you favor to coach within the dwelling reasonably than a health club.

Subsequent, the stretch that individuals argue they really feel extra intensely with a dumbbell chest fly shouldn’t be actually one thing that exists. What you’re feeling shouldn’t be a stretch within the pecs however reasonably a extra intense stretch within the coracobrachialis muscle. Each the pec main and coracobrachialis connect to the humerus however the latter attaches additional down the arm. Solely it’s influenced by the dropping of the arm a bit extra on the fly (albeit slightly bit) whereas the pec main stays comparatively unchanged in size. That is due to the extra proximal attachment having much less journey because the distal humerus drops.

It is best to get the identical quantity of stretch on the pecs within the backside portion of the bench press as you’d within the backside portion of the fly. What you’re feeling nevertheless is a extra intense stretch within the cartilage of the rib cage in the event you correctly arch your chest as you carry out the train.

For all of those causes, you possibly can see that the dumbbell chest fly shouldn’t be a superior possibility when coaching your chest. The cable standing model of this lets you match the load higher to your power curve and supply extra of an overload whereas eliminating virtually the entire danger to the shoulder that’s widespread of the dumbbell variation plus it will get you in your toes, in a extra athletic coaching place.

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  2. Flies cause shoulder pain when it’s a new exercise in your routine. Once your muscles acclimate and stabilize, they are one of the best chest exercises. Arnold swore by them. I prefer dumbbells as they are more practical than cables. Nothing is ever linear in life, the stabilization & motion of the dumbbells would translate to more functional gains. That’s just my opinion.
    It’s like the difference between a classic squat & leg press.
    You can do both, but you only really need the squat.

  3. I do agree that bench flies are horrible, that's a great point Jeff!
    However, one-sided cable flies are way too easy to cheat on for me to attempt them (besides the fact that I don't have a gym).

  4. 54 here, still doing flyes. For 28 years already.

    Better chest builder than bench press.

    Arnold was right.
    And many other bodybuilders as well.
    Just keep the weight moderate.

    Nothing below 50 kg dumbbells .

    (kidding)

  5. Dumbell bench flys are actually a pretty decent exercise if performed correctly, and especially safely. Maybe not as good as standing cable flys (but do it with both arms, wth is that one arm stuff), but they don't really work the muscles in the same way.

    Just use lower weights and make sure to have your elbows/shoulders at a safe angle as to not put a bunch of tension on them.

  6. I'm curious if you recommend the cable fly for someone with a healed pec tear? I tore my right pec, both heads, badly about six years ago. I had surgery the following week and it was completely successful. The only thing is that I have a three inch scar that blends in with stretch marks. I have no deformity whatsoever, great surgeon! Anyway, after a few months of therapy I started lifting again but I do much lighter weights. For example, prior to the tear I was starting bench with 225# for 22 reps. Now, I start straight bar bench at 170# for 30 reps and keep the same weight since I'm already pretty fatigued after that first warmup. I also do incline bench with a bar and dumbells but I have NOT done ANY dips or flyes since my surgery, for fear of redamaging the pec. Since I will still avoid the DUMBELL fly, since I agree completley with your review of that exercise, it seems like the cable fly would be alright since I won't allow my arm to stretch too much at the start of the movement. Great video Jeff, thanks!

  7. I haven't done bench flies for years, doing cable flies..but today, too many people at gym so instead of waiting, i decided to do bench flies. A few hours later, i have pain in one spot.. Now i remember why i never do bench flies.

    For cable .. Do u reco the one hand like u show in this video, or using the two hands regular fly?

  8. I was doing bench flys earlier and thought about it just not feeling super useful at a lot of points. I am gonna make the switch to the cables, or at least on the floor if I can't get out to the gym.

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